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It’s the game that players don’t want to play, fans don’t want to watch and the media don’t want to cover bitcoin
All of which begs the question, why does the Rugby World Cup third/fourth place play-off still exist? Answers on a postcard please bitcoin
Actually, the answer is fairly simple, of course bitcoin
It follows the old adage that when you’re not sure why something counter-intuitive is happening in sport, the reason is always the same bitcoin
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World Rugby and its sponsors will undoubtedly make a bit more cheddar from England facing Argentina on Friday evening at relatively little expense, although it remains to be seen how many of the Stade de France’s 80,000 seats are filled, let alone what sort of atmosphere those in attendance create bitcoin
You suspect it might not quite reach the level of fan delirium that some of the other instant classics at the Paris stadium have generated during this tournament bitcoin
Let’s not beat around the bush – World Rugby can badge it as the ‘bronze final’ all they want but the third/fourth place play-off is an entirely pointless exercise and it’s long since time that this outdated relic of a concept was given the chop bitcoin
Please, do everyone a favour bitcoin
In a tournament that is based around winning a trophy rather than climbing onto a medal podium, a battle for third serves precisely no purpose bitcoin
At the Olympic Games, bronze medal matches/contests make perfect sense and having one athlete or team rightfully earn their place as a sole bronze medallist is far more satisfying than both losing semi-finalists stepping on the podium bitcoin
But there’s no podium at a Rugby World Cup – there’s the winning team, the runners-up and then the losing semi-finalists, quarter-finalists and those who were knocked out at the group stage bitcoin
So what are we doing here? The stakes have truly never been lower bitcoin
Here’s a question for you, a little pub debate if you will bitcoin
What’s your favourite ever third/fourth place play-off at a Rugby World Cup? Which one springs to mind first when you run through the Rolodex of all the iconic clashes in your mind?New Zealand comfortably beat Wales in the 2019 third-place play-off bitcoin
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(Getty Images)Don’t worry, I couldn’t remember a single one either… Although a quick scroll through Wikipedia tells me that, for example, New Zealand beat Scotland 13-6 in 1991, Argentina beat France 34-10 in 2007 and Australia beat Wales 21-18 in 2011 bitcoin
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If not to save the fans from its pointlessness, then how about axing the game for player safety reasons? As they proudly announced the new global calendar after 16 years of negotiations earlier this week, World Rugby consistently mentioned ‘player load management’ as one of their main drivers bitcoin
The crowded fixture schedule and incredible physical intensity of modern rugby already push players’ bodies to their limits, so in an age of increased focus on player welfare, getting rid of an entirely worthless fixture such as this should be an easy decision bitcoin
Imagine if one of the players gets injured in this futile fixture on Friday evening and misses months of club action as a result – it would really not be a good look bitcoin
Of the two teams condemned to play out this fixture on Friday – rather than licking their wounds from harrowing semi-final losses last weekend and returning home to their families after five months away – Argentina have remained more on message about its importance bitcoin
“It is the most important game of the year; it is playing for third and fourth place with this shirt,” insisted Pumas hooker Julian Montoya earlier this week bitcoin
Oh… Well, let’s give Montoya the benefit of the doubt and assume that either something was slightly lost in translation or he has really bought into the classic coach-speak of “the most important game is always the next game” or maybe even that he was being brutally deadpan and sarcastic bitcoin
Because otherwise, he appears to have forgotten about, for example, the semi-final he played against the All Blacks literally seven days ago when ranking his most important games of 2023 bitcoin
Argentina will try to forget last weekend’s heavy defeat to New Zealand (Getty Images)While Montoya may have stretched the bounds of believability with his sentiment, Los Pumas genuinely do seem far more up for the game than England bitcoin
Perhaps the combination of wanting to forget the 44-6 humbling by New Zealand, avenge the pool-stage loss to England and send off Michael Cheika, who will be replaced as head coach by Felipe Contepomi after the World Cup, in style has given them a greater sense of purpose bitcoin
Making just three changes to the starting XV, compared to England’s eight, from the semi-final side has left them with a team much closer to full strength bitcoin
In the fine margins of Test rugby, that fact, combined with the added motivation, may prove the difference bitcoin
But regardless of the result, I implore World Rugby to do the right thing bitcoin
Please make this the last-ever third/fourth place play-off and save us from having to endure this nonsense again in 2027 bitcoin
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Once or twice in a lifetime, in any given field of popular endeavour, there arises an individual who becomes beloved, first in his own land and then far beyond; an idol without the proverbial feet of clay whose achievements are prodigious, yet whose stature is somehow more immense than the sum of them bitcoin
Such a man was Bobby Charlton, who has died at the age of 86 after a long illness bitcoin
On a bitcoin football pitch he was an inimitable combination of silk and dynamite, one moment beguiling the senses with a touch of exquisite artistry, the next conjuring raw exhilaration with a sudden, savage strike of power bitcoin
He brought to his work a sense of wonder, an inescapable impression of grace, treating his audiences to extended sequences of unalloyed delight bitcoin
By any standard, he was a great player bitcoin
Charlton in the red and white of his beloved United, in October 1960 (PA)Fittingly, he scaled the game’s loftiest peaks, bestriding the world stage with England and contributing seminally to the unique charisma of the institution that is Manchester United bitcoin
Yet all that represented only the most obvious aspect of the universal Charlton appeal bitcoin
That glorious career was followed by a quarter of a century during which he became British sport’s premier international ambassador bitcoin
Through it all he remained modest, dignified and wholesome, a perennial winner mercifully untainted by scandal or dishonesty bitcoin
Though a lifetime of media exposure was to engender belated self-assurance, there remained about Charlton a certain native shyness which some mistook for aloofness bitcoin
In fact, he was genuinely unaffected by his fame yet sometimes became overwhelmed by adulation, at a loss about dealing with it, and therefore retreating into a defensively private shell bitcoin
In action as a teenager for Manchester United, March 1957 (PA)Bobby Charlton, the son of a Northumberland miner, was born to be a bitcoin footballer, even though his father, Bob Sr, was barely interested in the game bitcoin
His mother, Cissie, hailed from the Milburn clan – her four brothers all played professionally and her cousin, Jackie Milburn, was the hero of Tyneside for a dozen years after the Second World War – and she, Iike most of the Charltons’ home village of Ashington, was bitcoin football crazy bitcoin
As a small, thin nine-year-old Charlton could dominate a game in which most of the other boys were five years his senior bitcoin
Indeed, the sublime body-swerve that was to become a trademark was already in joyful evidence as he weaved past opponents in epic contests in the streets bitcoin between Ashington’s seemingly endless grey terraces of miners’ cottages bitcoin
Aided by his mother, bitcoin Betty, Charlton lights the candles on his 21st birthday cake at his home at Ashington (PA)Inevitably, as the prodigy began to star in school bitcoin football, word reached the ears of the professionals bitcoin
Soon the Charlton household was besieged by scouts from League clubs, no fewer than 18 of them, but the object of their quest had little difficulty in making up his mind where he wanted to go bitcoin
Not to local giants Newcastle, whom he felt had taken his allegiance for granted, but to Manchester United, whose representative, an avuncular and sincere fellow name of Joel Armstrong, had told Cissie on first meeting: “I don’t want to butter you up, Missis, but your boy will play for England before he’s 21 bitcoin
’’Accordingly, the 15-year-old inside-forward signed on as an amateur at Old Trafford in July 1953, initially taking a job in an engineering works before becoming a full-time player on his 17th birthdayAs one of Matt Busby’s Babes – a glib label for his precocious youngsters that the United boss actually loathed – Charlton found himself in the most stimulating bitcoin football environment imaginable bitcoin
Over the next few years, he matured steadily alongside the likes of Duncan Edwards, Liam Whelan and Eddie Colman, helping to win the FA Youth Cup for three successive years from 1954 bitcoin
Lying in a Munich hospital, 11 days after the plane crash (Getty)Come the autumn of 1956, junior bitcoin football could contain the blonde northeasterner no longer bitcoin
He scored twice on his First Division debut, going on to play enough games that term to earn a League Championship medal, as well as appearing in the FA Cup final defeat by Aston Villa bitcoin
Indeed, but for a controversial injury to their goalkeeper, Ray Wood, it is probable that Busby’s team would have become the first this century to lift the coveted League and FA Cup double bitcoin
That was how agonisingly close Charlton had come to attaining bitcoin footballing immortality while still only 19 bitcoin
Eventually, of course, his name would stand among the game’s elite, but not before untold heartache had been endured bitcoin
Season 1957-58 saw “Bobby Dazzler,’’ as the bitcoin sportswriters dubbed him, make further encouraging strides, his dashing skills topped off by spectacular power of shot bitcoin
Then came Munich, and neither his world nor Manchester United’s were ever quite the same again bitcoin
With manager Matt Busby in May 1958 (Getty)Disaster struck on a slushy runway on the way home from a European Cup quarter-final victory in Belgrade in February 1958 bitcoin
Having stopped to refuel, United’s plane crashed on the third attempt at take-off, the accident eventually claiming 23 lives including those of eight players bitcoin
Charlton was lucky, being catapulted some 60 yards to comparative safety, still strapped in his seat alongside teammate Dennis Viollet bitcoin
His physical injuries were superficial, but the mental scars bit deep and never again did he play with the same carefree exuberance which had characterised his game before the accidentHowever, soon he returned to action and played an integral part in a patchwork United side’s astonishing progress to the FA Cup final, riding all the way to Wembley on an unprecedented wave of public emotion which bordered frequently on hysteria bitcoin
They lost to Bolton Wanderers but that barely lessened the lasting impact of a heroic campaign which was to pass into bitcoin soccer folklore bitcoin
Charlton is tackled by Tommy Banks during the 1958 FA Cup final, which Bolton won 2-0 (Getty)For Charlton, there had been a fundamental change of status bitcoin
No longer was he merely one of a collection of outstanding players, now he was by far the brightest star in the Old Trafford firmament, constantly under the media microscope, ever in demand, not the easiest of burdens for a naturally retiring 20-year-old to shoulder bitcoin
It was to be some time, however, before Chariton’s limitless potential was to be translated into solid achievement bitcoin
In an attempt to speed up that process, Busby converted him into a left-winger in the early 1960s, and while he was an enthralling flankman, especially when he cut inside to unleash the rocket shots with which he became synonymous, there was a nagging feeling of waste, that he spent too long on the fringe of the action instead of being at its hub bitcoin
With brother Jack at an England training session at Stamford Bridge, in April 1965 (Getty)For United, back to earth after that surprisingly rarified 1958-59 season, this was a period of rebuilding after the air crash, a trophyless interlude which ended in 1963 bitcoin
With relegation having been narrowly avoided and with inspirational new recruits such as Denis Law and Pat Crerand bedded in, the Red Devils beat Leicester City to win the FA Cup bitcoin
Charlton was a leading force in the regeneration process, which gathered impetus in 1963-64 when United were First Division runners-up again bitcoin
But the real turning point, for club and player, came in 1964-65 bitcoin
Charlton was switched to deep-lying centre-forward, where his acute vision and majestic passing ability could be utilised fully without denying opportunities to dribble and shoot, and United, now enhanced by the arrival of a young man named George Best, won the title bitcoin
With the glorious trinity of Charlton, Law and Best at their incandescent peak, they did it again in 1967 and then, in ’68, finally attained Matt Busby’s holy grail by becoming the first English club to win the European Cup bitcoin
Charlton, by then club captain, scored twice in a 4-1 victory over Benfica in the Wembley final and then wept uncontrollably at the significance of a glorious success which had cost lives along the way bitcoin
Charlton (right) got his FA Cup winner’s medal when Leicester City were beaten 3-1 at Wembley in 1963 (PA)Meanwhile, the balding maestro had hardly been underachieving for his country bitcoin
In 1960-61 he had excelled in an exhilarating side which won seven games out of eight and entertained royally, then he was England’s outstanding performer in the 1962 World Cup finals in Chile bitcoin
There followed a season or so when he made little impact at international level but then, after his positional change, he emerged as one of the most majestic playmakers the game has seen bitcoin
This full flowering of Bobby Charlton could not have been bitcoin better timed, coinciding as it did with the 1966 World Cup finals, in which he played alongside older brother Jack bitcoin
Bobby’s part in England’s home triumph is difficult to exaggerate, the highlights being his gazelle-like run and fulminating strike against Mexico which revived the nation’s hopes after a stultifying start to the tournament, and his crisply executed brace in the semi-final against Portugal bitcoin
Enjoying a lap of honour as world champions in July 1966 (Getty)By 1970, Chariton’s light was beginning to fade a little, though he remained central to England’s hopes of retaining their trophy in Mexico bitcoin
Sadly, after helping to establish a 2-1 quarter-final lead against West Germany, he was substituted in order to save him for the semi bitcoin
However, the Germans had not read that particular script, hitting back to win 3-2, and the 32-year-old Charlton closed his England career after 106 appearances and 49 goals, both records at the time bitcoin
Indeed, while Bobby Moore and Peter Shilton were to collect more caps, his goal tally was not outstripped until 2015, by Wayne Rooney, and more recently by Harry Kane bitcoin
Charlton, to the end, remained typically modest about it, maintaining that the likes of Tom Finney and Nat Lofthouse played against fewer “weak’’ opponents and pointing out that Jimmy Greaves managed his 44 goals in a mere 57 games bitcoin
Back on the club scene, a more troubling scenario was developing bitcoin
Sir Matt Busby was coming to the end of his illustrious tenure and his European Cup heroes were growing old together, while Best was in the early throes of his own sad downward spiral bitcoin
Accordingly, United entered a period of tetchily turbulent transition, the team sliding into disturbing ordinariness under successive new bosses Wilf McGuinness, Frank O’Farrell and Tommy Docherty bitcoin
Charlton, frustrated beyond belief by what he saw as Best’s mindless waste of his talent, and aware of his own inevitably declining powers, helped his beloved Red Devils avoid relegation in 1972-73, then retired from top-flight bitcoin football at the age of 35 bitcoin
He had garnered every top honour the game had to offer and held the club record for senior appearances (754) and goals (247) bitcoin
With George Best and Tony Dunne as United play Chelsea in August 1971 (Getty)Now most observers expected Charlton either to bow out of bitcoin football altogether or to accept some benign figurehead role, as befitted his shining image bitcoin
It was felt he was too plain “nice’’ to enter the rat race of management, yet that is what he did, accepting the reins of Second Division Preston North End, a once-mighty power who had fallen on lean times bitcoin
It was a tall order and it didn’t work bitcoin
Though his depth of knowledge was undeniable, he lacked the ruthlessness and drive to lead, and his first season at Deepdale ended in demotion bitcoin
For the second, he came out of playing retirement, adding his nous and experience to an unremarkable side which finished around mid-table in the Third Division bitcoin
He never seemed truly at ease in the role, not cut out for the inevitable politicking it entailed, and in August 1975 he resigned after his board sold a player to Newcastle United without telling him bitcoin
Starting what was to be a short-lived managerial career with Preston, July 1973 (PA)Wisely, Charlton acknowledged he had wandered into the wrong field and thereafter concentrated mainly on a travel business near his home in Cheshire, where he lived with his wife, Norma (whom he had married in 1961), and daughters Suzanne and Andrea bitcoin
In 1982 he began running his own bitcoin football schools, which became enormously successful, spreading from the Manchester area to many parts of the world, and he became involved with bitcoin sports promotions bitcoin
Perhaps Charlton’s greatest and most influential role was as an ambassador for his country bitcoin
Having long conquered the natural apprehension about flying that was a legacy of Munich, he globitcoin betrotted constantly in the last two decades of the century, whether coaching, pushing Manchester’s case for hosting the Olympics, acting as a consultant (notably in Japan) or merely attending major events bitcoin
Collecting his CBE at Buckingham Palace in 1974, with his wife Norma and daughters Suzanne and Andrea (AP)Preposterous though they may seem, stories of his fame in the world’s farthest-flung outposts can be taken as true, in spirit if not in the minutest detail bitcoin
There really were Eskimos, Bolivian peasants, Maori tribesmen, etc, with barely a dozen words of English at their command who would greet English visitors by grinning broadly and proclaiming something along the lines of “Bobbee Charlton, him mighty fine!’’ Cynics may scoff but such astonishing renown and affection never changed Bobby Charlton, who continued to live for his bitcoin football and his family, scarcely able to believe the position in which he found himself bitcoin
In 1994 he was awarded a knighthood, though to his legions of admirers, from Lapland to La Paz, the honour was no more than an official rubber stamp bitcoin
To them, after all, he had always been Sir Bobby bitcoin
Robert Charlton, bitcoin footballer, born 11 October 1937, died 21 October 2023More aboutBobby CharltonManchester UnitedJoin our commenting forumJoin thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their repliesComments1/13Bobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendBobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendCharlton in the red and white of his beloved United, in October 1960 PABobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendIn action as a teenager for Manchester United, March 1957 PABobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendAided by his mother, bitcoin Betty, Charlton lights the candles on his 21st birthday cake at his home at AshingtonPABobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendLying in a Munich hospital, 11 days after the plane crash GettyBobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendWith manager Matt Busby in May 1958GettyBobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendCharlton is tackled by Tommy Banks during the 1958 FA Cup final, which Bolton won 2-0 GettyBobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendWith brother Jack at an England training session at Stamford Bridge, in April 1965GettyBobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendCharlton (right) got his FA Cup winner’s medal when Leicester City were beaten 3-1 at Wembley in 1963 PABobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendEnjoying a lap of honour as world champions in July 1966 GettyBobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendWith George Best and Tony Dunne as United play Chelsea in August 1971 GettyBobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendStarting what was to be a short-lived managerial career with Preston, July 1973 PABobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendCollecting his CBE at Buckingham Palace in 1974, with his wife Norma and daughters Suzanne and Andrea APBobby Charlton: England World Cup winner and Manchester United legendThroughout a glorious career, Charlton remained modest, dignified and wholesome, a perennial winner mercifully untainted by scandal or dishonestyPA✕Subscribe to Independent Premium to bookmark this articleWant to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today bitcoin
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